Hi everyone,
I thought I would kick open some strategy discussion on this board with my first post, I hope others will follow. I think we can expect some exciting content here from our members and outside guests this year. I know math and strat is not everyone's cup of tea, but whatever you have to add, be it an exciting story about poker, or breaking news ....... lets start here. In the future the forum will be divided into appropriate sections for ease of navigation. Remember the more you contribute, the more you get out of it. The moment you stop innovating in poker, you're finished.
Also, a bit of news and gossip never hurt someone .
"" This dude does not stop three betting me .... wtf?? "" (Intermediate players)
Well you get the picture by the title. We have all been there. You raise what is seemingly a decent raising hand like KJ clubs from the cutoff and the button three bets you. Or how about when u raise 77 and get three bet by the player to your left (( 3 bet means a re raise after the original raiser i.e. the two bettor has opened for a raise already )). Its a problem ... if it keeps happening, because you are leaving yourself open to exploitative play pretty much every time, if some one starts doing this with a 'high' frequency.
Ok how 'high' is high? Well, there is no correct or specific answer here, lol, but put it this way, you will know. You just get that feeling, you don't need to have a calculator to know if someone is three betting way higher then normal.
How is this exploitative? Well assuming you raise to the standard 3x or 3.5x, he three bets you to 11 bets and you call and basically play fit or fold creating a ton of dead money. Note: you are out of position all the way (OOP).
So what do we do?
How about the next time, you get dealt 55, you bring it in for 3.5 times the big blind and when raised to 11 bb's, how about ...................... Shoving!?
Huh? What risk my stack with 55, whaaaaa??
ok, lets take a closer look
Villain three bets you wider then normal (obviously he is, you know that already, he cant have AA, AK everytime right?) ...... but when you shove,
What hands is he willing to call his stack here?? (We assume 100 bb stacks, cause deeper is obvious problems)
Lets see .... AA KK QQ AK AQ suited unsuited maybe, maybe even AJ suited. JJ maybe 10 10 maybe, maybe A10 suited.
So with that calling range, our equity against villain is about 39 %. Wow, do you see where I am going here?
Obviously all our Villains are not the same and will call with tighter ranges, but that can still favor you to make this move, I will analyze the Expectation for this play in a bit, gonna go bet the oscars. B back in a bit.
I thought I would kick open some strategy discussion on this board with my first post, I hope others will follow. I think we can expect some exciting content here from our members and outside guests this year. I know math and strat is not everyone's cup of tea, but whatever you have to add, be it an exciting story about poker, or breaking news ....... lets start here. In the future the forum will be divided into appropriate sections for ease of navigation. Remember the more you contribute, the more you get out of it. The moment you stop innovating in poker, you're finished.
Also, a bit of news and gossip never hurt someone .
"" This dude does not stop three betting me .... wtf?? "" (Intermediate players)
Well you get the picture by the title. We have all been there. You raise what is seemingly a decent raising hand like KJ clubs from the cutoff and the button three bets you. Or how about when u raise 77 and get three bet by the player to your left (( 3 bet means a re raise after the original raiser i.e. the two bettor has opened for a raise already )). Its a problem ... if it keeps happening, because you are leaving yourself open to exploitative play pretty much every time, if some one starts doing this with a 'high' frequency.
Ok how 'high' is high? Well, there is no correct or specific answer here, lol, but put it this way, you will know. You just get that feeling, you don't need to have a calculator to know if someone is three betting way higher then normal.
How is this exploitative? Well assuming you raise to the standard 3x or 3.5x, he three bets you to 11 bets and you call and basically play fit or fold creating a ton of dead money. Note: you are out of position all the way (OOP).
So what do we do?
How about the next time, you get dealt 55, you bring it in for 3.5 times the big blind and when raised to 11 bb's, how about ...................... Shoving!?
Huh? What risk my stack with 55, whaaaaa??
ok, lets take a closer look
Villain three bets you wider then normal (obviously he is, you know that already, he cant have AA, AK everytime right?) ...... but when you shove,
What hands is he willing to call his stack here?? (We assume 100 bb stacks, cause deeper is obvious problems)
Lets see .... AA KK QQ AK AQ suited unsuited maybe, maybe even AJ suited. JJ maybe 10 10 maybe, maybe A10 suited.
So with that calling range, our equity against villain is about 39 %. Wow, do you see where I am going here?
Obviously all our Villains are not the same and will call with tighter ranges, but that can still favor you to make this move, I will analyze the Expectation for this play in a bit, gonna go bet the oscars. B back in a bit.
Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:20 pm by ReegunPoker89
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