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    Post by jimram Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:28 pm

    Due to members suggestions, we have come up with a revised schedule for September 2009.
    We need members views on these so as to finalize details.
    Pls post your views and email your registrations to pokaments@pokertourindia.com


    EVENT DETAILS:

    DATES DETAILS BUY - IN FEES REBUYS ADD-ON

    21 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 1 Rs. 3000 NO NO
    22 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 2 Rs. 5000 NO NO
    23 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 3 Rs. 7000 NO NO
    24 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 4 Rs. 9000 NO NO
    25 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 5 Rs. 12000 NO NO
    26 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 6 Rs. 15000 NO NO
    27 SEPT, 2009 NL HOLD'em EVENT 7 Rs. 50000 NO NO



    TOURNAMENT DETAIL

    PLACE GOA
    FLOATING CASINO VENUE TO BE ANNOUNCED
    GAME TYPE NL HOLD'em
    DAY OF WEEK Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr, Sa, Su
    TIME OF DAY 12 NOON ONWARDS
    PLAYERS ELIGIBILITY IPRT LEAGUE MEMBERS ONLY-MEMBERSHIP FREE
    VENUE ADMISSION FEES CASINO ENTRANCE IS FREE FOR PARTICIPANTS
    MAXIMUM PARTICIPANTS MAX 90 PER EVENT
    MINIMUM PARTICIPANTS MIN 50 PER EVENT
    AVG . NUMBER OF PLAYERS 75 PER EVENT ESTIMATED
    BUY-IN FEES RETURNED 80%
    REBUYS NO
    ADD ON NO
    STARTING CHIP COUNT 5000, 10000, 15000
    FREEBEES FREE ENTRY TO NEXT EVENT FOR TOP TWO FINISHERS
    REGISTRATION IN ADVANCE TO CASINO - NO REGISTRATION AT VENUE
    AVG TOURNEY LENGTH 5-7 HOURS

    PAYOUT STRUCTURE

    PLACES PAYOUT PLACES PAYOUT %
    2 - 9 PLAYERS - 1 PLACE PAYOUT 100%
    10 - 29 PLAYERS - 3 PLACES PAYOUTS 50%-30%-20%
    30 - 59 PLAYERS - 5 PLACES PAYOUTS 40%-25%-15%-11%-9%
    60 - 90 PLAYERS - 9 PLACES PAYOUTS 35%-20%-13%-10%-9%-6%-5%-3%-2%

    BLIND STRUCTURE

    LEVEL TIME - 45 MINUTES
    LEVEL
    1 50-100
    2 100-200
    3 200-300
    4 300-600
    5 500-1000
    LEVEL TIME - 35 MINUTES
    6 1000-2000
    7 2000-4000
    8 3000-6000
    9 5000-10000
    10 6000-12000
    LEVEL TIME - 25 MINUTES
    11 8000-16000
    12 10000-20000
    13 15000-30000
    14 20000-40000
    15 25000-50000
    LEVEL TIME - 15 MINUTES
    16 30000-60000
    17 50000-100000
    18 80000-160000
    19 100000-200000
    20 150000-300000



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    Post by Raj Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:01 pm

    A few questions:

    1. What % of buyin goes towards prize pool?
    2. Whats the prize on free roll?
    3. What happened to freeroll getting entry into 50K buyin?
    4. What happened to free entry to top post contributer on this site?

    A few suggestions:

    1. I think level period for each level should be proportionate to the buyin amount - so that people who paid more gets more play and less luck factor.

    2. I think Level period change is rather drastic. 45 min levels in beginning and 15 minutes turbos when money really matters? Once it goes to half hour it shouldnt go down further in my opinion.



    A few observations:

    1. I dont know how you plan to end the tournie in 5 hours. First 5 levels themselves will take 3:45 hours not counting breaks in between.
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    Post by Kunal Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:26 pm

    the max number of players should be increased for the cheaper buy-ins..
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    Post by Raj Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:20 am

    Kunal wrote:the max number of players should be increased for the cheaper buy-ins..

    They may not have enough floor space / tables in the boat!
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    Post by jimram Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:16 am

    Raj wrote:A few questions:

    1. What % of buyin goes towards prize pool?
    2. Whats the prize on free roll?
    3. What happened to freeroll getting entry into 50K buyin?
    4. What happened to free entry to top post contributer on this site?

    A few suggestions:

    1. I think level period for each level should be proportionate to the buyin amount - so that people who paid more gets more play and less luck factor.

    2. I think Level period change is rather drastic. 45 min levels in beginning and 15 minutes turbos when money really matters? Once it goes to half hour it shouldnt go down further in my opinion.



    A few observations:

    1. I dont know how you plan to end the tournie in 5 hours. First 5 levels themselves will take 3:45 hours not counting breaks in between.
    The hours are just average estimates.
    The prize pool is mentioned above 80%
    The free entry to max contributor stands for the highest game
    The revised events have 2 free entries to the next higher event-Step system
    Your other suggestions are well taken and will be reviewed
    Thanks for your feedback Raj and keep posting!
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    Post by pranav Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:00 pm

    this is a much much better schedule than before. instead of one 50k tournament having various small tournaments will cater to everyone.. from the amateur to the professional to the fun player.
    i understand the predicament of holding it in one consecutive week.. however, that might deter working professionals from coming for the whole week since they can't get time off from work.
    Maybe stagger it over a month or so holding it over the weekend?
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    Post by Raj Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:18 pm

    pranav wrote:this is a much much better schedule than before. instead of one 50k tournament having various small tournaments will cater to everyone.. from the amateur to the professional to the fun player.
    i understand the predicament of holding it in one consecutive week.. however, that might deter working professionals from coming for the whole week since they can't get time off from work.
    Maybe stagger it over a month or so holding it over the weekend?

    Staggering it over a month wont work well - I dont think that most people are going to visit Goa every weekend - it will only work for locals.

    I actually liked the previous schedule better.. One big event that you can plan travel for.. Now you have to plan a longer trip, and also pay casino entry fee on every day that you plan to play..
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    Post by pranav Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:24 pm

    people who dont have the capacity to play that one big event will miss out on a good poker opportunity if the buy in was 50k..
    maybe jim can work something out with the casino regarding the casino entry fee. paying everyday for 7 days will be almost Rs. 10k for all the tournaments..
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    Post by Ami Amrit Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:07 pm

    hello Admin/Jim,

    i feel this is the perfect idea. this is what i was discussing/posting beofre.

    small levels can give exposure and then one can decide to go for high stakes. exposure in first few events is important. imagine how someone playing poker in his own friends circle at small stakes can enter a single tournament for 50000 for the first time.

    this is encouraging, having a scope for everyone, interesting and will give a feel to new comers also.

    In my opinion this in perfect.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:23 pm

    Hey.. Hi Jim.. Finally found my way into the forum.. lol.. the format and the schedule sounds good.. looking forward to being there.. Been looking forward to your email.. Take care.. have a great day ahead.. Regards : Ketan
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    Post by Ami Amrit Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:32 pm

    can anyone suggest from where to get Poker accessories like t-shirt, key chain, etc?
    i know it is difficult in India.
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    Post by Ami Amrit Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:34 pm

    sorry...would like to add...

    from where in India i can buy the stuff.
    options on net from UK is available but not sure what I will receive. also it is double the price as shipping charges would be applicable.
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    Post by jimram Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:46 pm

    pranav wrote:people who dont have the capacity to play that one big event will miss out on a good poker opportunity if the buy in was 50k..
    maybe jim can work something out with the casino regarding the casino entry fee. paying everyday for 7 days will be almost Rs. 10k for all the tournaments..
    Thanks guys for the feedback.
    We are negoing with the casino reg discounting entrance fees for members. However, all depends on numbers and in this case on numbers of member participants.
    Pranav, we could include one 50K tourney instead of the IPRT free tournament for points/ranking.
    We could plan an IPRT league points tourney with boot-camp sometime early Oct. That will be a fully Free event only casino entrance to be paid.
    Having a 50K tourney may interest a segment of the members.
    Raj may have a point here.
    What do you all say?
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    Post by pranav Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:48 pm

    i definitely agree with you that you should also have that 50k buy in tourney for the big players.
    but now that you have got these small tournaments as well, there will be a lot more number of people. I'll email you my thoughts.. this might not be the right place. Smile
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    Post by Ami Amrit Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:53 pm

    i think 50000K tournament would also go well as there would be players who would really like to go for it.
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    Post by jimram Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:02 pm

    Ken Insane wrote:Hey.. Hi Jim.. Finally found my way into the forum.. lol.. the format and the schedule sounds good.. looking forward to being there.. Been looking forward to your email.. Take care.. have a great day ahead.. Regards : Ketan
    Hey sorry about that.
    Thanks for your feedback about the event.
    Look forward to your participation in the forum.
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    Post by jimram Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:05 pm

    pranav wrote:i definitely agree with you that you should also have that 50k buy in tourney for the big players.
    but now that you have got these small tournaments as well, there will be a lot more number of people. I'll email you my thoughts.. this might not be the right place. Smile
    Thanks buddy
    appreciate that.
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    Post by Kunal Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:49 pm

    i guess 50k tourney is a good idea..
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    Post by IndianpokerAce Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:39 pm

    Hi Admin .. late to the discussion but here is my feedback.

    The format seems good though keep in mind that most people would prefer a Thursday to Sunday schedule then a Monday to Sunday outing as pointed out already. Also can the initial tournament be slighly towards the evening as that will give more chance for people to join in after their journey.

    I also assume the 10k & 15k starting chips are for higher tournaments which is even better and more appropriate as the 5k strting chip one is more of a turbo format.

    The slabs can be better defined with more narrow gaps. This is important as you are only expecting an average of 75 players per tourney. So when you say "10 - 29 PLAYERS - 3 PLACES PAYOUTS 50%-30%-20% "...the ratio of payouts ranges from 30% to 10% and thats quite a drastic fluctuation. So would suggest have an interval of 10 OR 5 for these ranges and would suggest a flater payouts of 12-15% per range ...so as to get max particpation for present and future events.

    As for Amrits point ..I think thats a good marketing oppurtunity for you . You could ship t-shirts or such accessories with IRPT inscribed on a cost to cost basis ? I am ready to buy some of the stuff and others could also confirm ? Would be great oppurtunity for you to market the Goa trip , poker and IRPT .
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    Post by jimram Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:53 pm

    IndianpokerAce wrote:Hi Admin .. late to the discussion but here is my feedback.

    The format seems good though keep in mind that most people would prefer a Thursday to Sunday schedule then a Monday to Sunday outing as pointed out already. Also can the initial tournament be slighly towards the evening as that will give more chance for people to join in after their journey.

    I also assume the 10k & 15k starting chips are for higher tournaments which is even better and more appropriate as the 5k strting chip one is more of a turbo format.

    The slabs can be better defined with more narrow gaps. This is important as you are only expecting an average of 75 players per tourney. So when you say "10 - 29 PLAYERS - 3 PLACES PAYOUTS 50%-30%-20% "...the ratio of payouts ranges from 30% to 10% and thats quite a drastic fluctuation. So would suggest have an interval of 10 OR 5 for these ranges and would suggest a flater payouts of 12-15% per range ...so as to get max particpation for present and future events.

    As for Amrits point ..I think thats a good marketing oppurtunity for you . You could ship t-shirts or such accessories with IRPT inscribed on a cost to cost basis ? I am ready to buy some of the stuff and others could also confirm ? Would be great oppurtunity for you to market the Goa trip , poker and IRPT .
    Thanks Ace, well thought of points.
    We will surely review and try to incorporate.
    Reg gift items/souvenirs, we are surely going to work on that too. Have contacted our HK affiliates and lets see what comes out. If we dont get it for this event then surely we will have it for the next event onwards.
    What do you say if we have a 50K event instead of the IPRT league event which will be postponed.
    Let me know.
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    Post by IndianpokerAce Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:34 am

    Hi Admin...tbh I havnt read your entire site , or know your marketing strategy and surely do not want you to be giving much weightage to my opinion . But for what it is worth and from whatever I have read on the IRPT page .....I would think there can be some merit in having the leagues as it will give you some good form of marketing & advertizement agenda. You could especially use it boot camps etc and in any market segment where you are trying to expose people to poker. Since you have anyways tied up with a online site ..think organising league events shouldnt really be to much of a hasle as well. Just my 2 cents
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    Post by jimram Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:58 am

    IndianpokerAce wrote:Hi Admin...tbh I havnt read your entire site , or know your marketing strategy and surely do not want you to be giving much weightage to my opinion . But for what it is worth and from whatever I have read on the IRPT page .....I would think there can be some merit in having the leagues as it will give you some good form of marketing & advertizement agenda. You could especially use it boot camps etc and in any market segment where you are trying to expose people to poker. Since you have anyways tied up with a online site ..think organising league events shouldnt really be to much of a hasle as well. Just my 2 cents
    Ace, your comments are always welcome and valuable for us. We will be organizing league events by next week online.
    Guys, we need to be on social networks, especially on Facebook. Can youll do something or suggest in that regards. Thanks.
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    Post by pranav Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:38 pm

    Just open a group on Facebook and we all can invite our friends to it..
    Wont be right for one of us to open the group as all the official information has to flow from you.
    As events are held, keep posting details about the events on facebook. I think thats going to be a big big marketing angle for you.
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    Post by syko112 Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:05 pm

    hey the small entry tourneys r a great idea as i know many ppl who wud prefer playing in the budget tourneys rather than the 50k buyin...im all set to play in the 3000....5000....7000...and 9000 buyin tournay as they come in my budget....just wanna know wht details do u require from myside in order to get me a seat...? and it so happens 21st sept is my birthday too Smile
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    Post by Raj Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:19 pm

    syko112 wrote:hey the small entry tourneys r a great idea as i know many ppl who wud prefer playing in the budget tourneys rather than the 50k buyin...im all set to play in the 3000....5000....7000...and 9000 buyin tournay as they come in my budget....just wanna know wht details do u require from myside in order to get me a seat...? and it so happens 21st sept is my birthday too Smile

    so.. we have to let you win that day? Smile

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